Scorpio and Virgo

topic posted Thu, September 11, 2008 - 2:40 PM by  Hikoro
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For those scorpios who have had relationships with Virgo, whether romantic or just friendship, would you mind sharing how it is/was?
Share the pros and cons, and also tips to make things smoother.

Thanks.
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  • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

    Thu, September 11, 2008 - 5:26 PM
    interesting sex but virgos annoy the holy Fuck out of me otherwise


    too nitpicky and prone to backstabbing
    • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

      Thu, September 11, 2008 - 6:58 PM
      *sigh*
      • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

        Thu, September 11, 2008 - 8:09 PM
        two of my greatest loves were virgo women. They were such intense and psychic bonds, they felt like soulmates. they probably are . I am almost certain. They had the ablitiy to make me give myself fully to them. We were very different in so many ways and likes. But the energy we shared was such a perfect fit. The love we shared compares to no other sign I have been with and these two women have nothing in common with each other exept for their sign. I have never truly gotten over them and judging by their current actions. they haven't gotten over me. One actively hates me and the other one still loves me but we dont seem to be destined to be.
        They were the most torrentuous and exiting loves of my life so far.... they were also the most heart wrenchingly devastating break ups.
        • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

          Thu, September 11, 2008 - 10:26 PM
          Kaylee, I think that scorp and virgo have potential for very deep bonds. But, I know that I didnt like being critisized virgo style, though. When that happens, I feel like I am being judged or controlled. It is a painful thing to have your personality and quirks pointed out as flawed or imperfect in a very judgemental way by someone whom you protect and at the same time,have opened yourself up in a vulnerable way because of intense loving and trust.
          I always thought to myself that they mean well deep down and just get in these moods. Perhaps they just weren't aware.
          • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

            Fri, September 12, 2008 - 8:03 AM
            See? I know what you mean, because the worst criticism and judgement to me has come from Scorpios. The only time that I've ever felt the way you describe below was due to a Scorpio. I wonder if we both can dish it, but can't take it? My best friend is a Scorpio and sometimes I feel as if I'm under a microscope with her.

            Most of the Scorpios I've dated have made me feel that way at times, and then at other times it's as if they know me and understand me better than anyone else on the entire planet.

            To look across the room and see my boyfriend's eyes on me and to see him mouth the words "I love you", makes time stop for those brief seconds, and I want to stay in that moment forever. In his eyes, all of the doubt in life, or in myself, or in our relationship seems so insignificant, and our bond is the only thing there is. Whenever I start to feel "virgoesque", I remember those times, and whatever nit-picky thing I had in my mind fades...
            • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

              Fri, September 12, 2008 - 10:29 PM
              Wow! I guess the judgmental critisism can go both ways for scorpio and virgo. Its a harsh thing that lovers who are so well aspected in so many other different ways to have to take from each other. Very hurtfull. I agree about the two signs understanding each other in a way that no one else can. That just makes the bond become even more powerful. That is why the pain can be so intense.
              I know I can dish it out. But I cant take it. Not from my virgo loves. One thing I can thank them for is my developing more tact when dishing it out to people I care about. Being on the recieving end can be very agonising.
              It is a funny thing when I was with my virgo lady being all lovey, it felt like we were the only two people on the planet. Our best time together was private time. Even just hugging and kissing or staring at each others eyes was an intense feeling. Almost as intense on the inside as sex itself. It was just plain love.It seemed that we were capable of getting stuck on each other in crowded places or groups of friends also. The bond is definately very tangible to other people who are present. Some friends can feel alienated by it.
              I really hope that I find such a love like it again. She was my muse.
              • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                Mon, September 15, 2008 - 8:32 AM
                I love hearing you say that. We Virgos get this rep of being cold and hard, and unfeeling. A muse. I am a creative, warm, lovely, and artistic person, and I hate when I read or hear that most virgos are analytical and calculating bores. :-)

                There is so much more to us deep down below. Scorpios can cut like a knife sometimes... The water that burns.
                • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                  Mon, September 15, 2008 - 11:19 PM
                  Analytical and calculating? I am capable of that myself as a scorpio. My lady and I used to have a barrel of laughs when we would join forces in being analytical and calculating of OTHERS. It made us respect each others' intelligence and taste. It was NEVER boring.
                  Infact, I dont know any boring virgos at all.

                  I am not surprised at all to hear that you are creative, warm ,lovely and artistic. Sounds very inspiring and lovable. Your scorp man is lucky. =D
                • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                  Wed, September 17, 2008 - 9:19 PM
                  Oh my....

                  I remember reading that Virgos were robotic creatures, analytical and cold.
                  My Virgo friend is not like that to that extreme. Sure, he enjoys intellectual conversations, same as I...but, he is, warm, kind....
                  Now, he is not all chirpy or like a bouncing ball, you know, like those people who get too excited about things...he is more serene than this.
                  He also does not express his emotions.

                  A funny thing is that he tries to appear calm and controlled but I have seen his down sides a number of times...sometimes he gets anxious, worried, moody...confused and he does let me know. Heck, I sense it anyways.

                  Adding to this, he is not obsessed with cleanliness or neatness.

                  Oh and he has a Virgo sun and moon.
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                    Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                    Thu, September 18, 2008 - 8:27 AM
                    My ex had 7 signs in virgo!

                    He was so grounded and funny. Then, at other times he was the most nervous, neurotic person ever. Poor guy. It ate him up inside. We actually had a baby together, and we get along really well now. I love him immensely, but I know that we are just too much alike to be together. He has a great girlfriend who knows what he needs, and can deal with him.
                    • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                      Mon, September 22, 2008 - 9:09 AM
                      That's sweet.

                      So, do you have any advice for me in terms of this Virgo?
                      • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                        Mon, September 22, 2008 - 12:31 PM
                        Patience and support during the neurotic times... and being able to make him laugh it out. He'll appreciate you for it. We really like to make people happy, and to be appreciated. We're good partners. Don't "bring the hammer down" for everything. Maybe just the 1 or 2 things that bother you the most. But, if there's something about him that really gets on your nerves, and you don't think you can stand it... do not go into it wanting him to change. We, Virgos are stubborn that way...

                        Also, whenever he starts to get critical and nit-picky, remember that most of the time, virgos are the hardest on themselves...

                        That's all I can think of for now...

                        Patience, patience, and more patience... :-D
                        • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                          Mon, September 22, 2008 - 3:35 PM
                          Interesting….

                          You know, Mr. Virgo hasn’t turned critical and nit-picky yet, at least with me…is this a trait that starts surfacing later?

                          About neuroticism: do Virgo men try to appear cool and calm to people? He always says he is laidback but...

                          I do notice that a) he gets worried b) gets confused c) gets anxious d) has mood swings.

                          Note on the mood swings, they are not emo mood swings. He just feels burned out or down...

                          Also:
                          He got burned by his ex, a pisces.....
                          It seems this has really affected him a lot, as in, it hurt him greatly, he is still a tad bit jaded, not ready to invest emotionally or for a relationship and of course, he is afraid.

                          This has made me very curious about Virgos since I used to have the impression that Virgos are robotic creatures that don't get hurt... thanks to the web.

                          But anyways, as a friend, what can I do to make him feel more secure?
                          What do the men like as gifts? I have read they like practical items but as a creative person, would handmade stuff be a bad idea? Are they action or feelings people?

                          Also, don’t Virgos need a lot of time to trust folks? Because Mr. Virgo trusts me already and has high regards for me. I don’t feel the same yet…I have my trust issues but I have my reasons and he is understanding about this.

                          By the way, I am very patient and enjoy going with the flow. I really like being his friend anyways. And well, I have read that a good friendship or at least a strong friendship bond is very important for Virgos in relationships, is this true?

                          Last but very important, how should I approach conflicts with him? I have read they don’t like emotional outbursts but, is it ok to be honest, explain what bothers you, the reasons and how your feelings have been affected by the conflict? I don’t go all emo when it comes to conflicts and I am not fond of attacking or putting the person down but it is important for me to express myself and be honest about my thoughts and feelings.

                          Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
                          • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                            Tue, September 23, 2008 - 9:00 AM
                            Yay! I love answering virgo questions like this...

                            It's hard for me to answer the last and very important question, becuase I'm very emotional. I have outbursts sometimes, and this ended up being the downfall of my virgo/virgo relationships... We both ignored and like you said, tried to appear calm, to the point of explosion.

                            Talk to him, tell him what's going on, what bothers you, your fears, dislikes, etc. He may be scared, but if he's willing to even begin a relationship with you, and as you say trust you, then he's getting over it. We virgos are funny, we want people to know how much we feel, just the same as everyone else.

                            Oh, and another weird thing, I tend to trust scorpios more than any other sign. It's like I know they can read me... So, it's not strange that he trusts you more than you trust him.

                            *I do notice that a) he gets worried b) gets confused c) gets anxious d) has mood swings.*

                            This makes me laugh extra hard in a sarcastic way. God, I hate this about me. It's like a pride thing maybe? We want to be laid-back, but really we can be extremely uptight! It's that mutable sign-thing... I'm the same way. Just this morning, I made a huge deal out of something that wasn't that big of a deal with my boyfriend. I feel bad about it now... I apologized. I hope he forgives me... :-(

                            PS. Friendship is awesome. Continue to open up to him, and let him open up to you. You sound like a very good friend to him. Good luck!
                            • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

                              Tue, September 23, 2008 - 2:24 PM
                              Mmm… I don’t know if Mr. Virgo is prone to emotional outbursts. Maybe I am just too understanding because he has had his moments when he feels very passionate and intense about things……

                              One thing though, he rarely expresses himself emotionally as in, talks about his feelings or what he likes about me. Not a gusher. He is quite an action person though.

                              You know…I really want to open up with him. I find that I have a very practical and also emotional side on me. My practical side is flourishing strongly with him, maybe because of my Taurean aspects and his Virgo attracting one another or because, just like him, I am afraid. But at the same time, I have read that Virgos are attracted by what they can't express themselves openly: emotions, feelings, intensity. So, should I try to be more Scorpionic? I don’t want to pretend and it is not as if I am not Scorpionic with him enough.
                              But…I don’t know, I am sentimental and romantic but at the same time I don’t want to scare him. He really likes my brains, will he like my heart?
                              Of course, I may be overanalyzing this myself.

                              By the way, thanks a lot for the insight. I really appreciate it.
  • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

    Wed, September 24, 2008 - 6:05 AM
    I had just one Virgo lover ..what I liked it was that we were really very well understanding each other ..
    what I did not like it was his too much concern of putting clothes in the very definite certain order ,
    to put all papers of his work into the bag even if I was begging him for the quickie sex ,
    to clean and make the room before going to bed or to work that did not matter ...
    he was a cleaning freak ..that made me mad at him so many times,that we simply decided at last to depart due to frequent
    wordy battles ..


    :(


    Adriana*

    P.S.Though I love order and all clean,but am not so mad at it ..LOL
    • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

      Wed, September 24, 2008 - 7:18 AM
      :-) I am not a "clean" virgo. My house is a mess, my car is a mess, my freakin life is mostly a mess... This could just be my Gemini ascendant...?
    • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

      Wed, September 24, 2008 - 10:49 AM
      Mmm....

      That's something else because this virgo is not a clean freak at all. Heck, I am cleaner than him and he has even complained (jokingly) about it...I wonder how his chart looks like.
  • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

    Tue, October 21, 2008 - 6:29 AM
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    MARRIAGE SIGN


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    MARRIAGE IN SECONDS


    My florist predicts marriage while packing flowers for her clients. Thus, her clients get to know when they will be married, within an informal chat. They have no need to go to the astrologer, who would hardly be able of such a feat. How can this be? The florist in question is one of the many people we have met and taught a simple calculus in minutes. They are not astrologers at all, and are therefore able to perform a little calculus, as well as tell the Sun sign for anyone they meet. The florist in question can tell you all the loves in your life, if you stop at her shop for twenty minutes. On several occasions, people like the local butcher, have framed and determined the whole life of a surprised client and astrologer, who got pinned to the point in minutes while the butcher packed the order.


    FLORIST ASTROLOGY


    Now who is the astrologer, the butcher or his client? Another famous astrology writer received his initiation from a florist, while on holiday. When he asked her if she were an astrologer, she smiled sheepishly, as she has never seen an ephemeris, natal chart or personal computer. She does things by heart. From the heart of the corner florist and into your ears. Anyone can know the year and month, also day and hour of his or her marriage. That is done in seconds as it does not require special astrological knowledge. What we have to present here is an elaborate introduction in elementary astrology, not the one you will find in the newspaper, but real sky astrology, genuine as the flower and fresh bread. In reading forth you will be baking your flowering future. It took twenty minutes to make an astrologer from our florist. It will take twenty minutes to read the following essay. Read it particularly if you are not interested in astrology at all. The less the interest, the greater the knowledge. Read it if you hate astrology. Go forth and read it. It was written on purpose in order to save your children, life, marriage, health and stocks.


    TWO SIGNS OF ERROR


    Your natal ascendant and Sun position may play tricks on you. Having a false personality bears heavy on one's back. In order to enjoy a healthy living, accurate scanning of the natal planetary positions is paramount. After being told that tropical astrology offers one sign of error, one goes to sidereal or even eastern astrologers, only to be fooled again. The error is not one sign as popular magazines inform, but two signs.


    TWO SIGNS SHIFT EXAMPLE


    Taking that superstition has been more or less standardized through various programs that calculate planetary positions, we assume that the programs more or less agree on each other, having 12 ascendants and 12 zodiacal positions. It is, however, interesting to compare the results of such programs with the real sky. Here is an example. One our client has been told that she is “Scorpio” with “Capricorn” ascendant. While both constellations are clearly misspelled, one inspects the real sky in order to determine the true positions of the client's natal planets. Capricornus clearly can not rise at east at this epoch, thus one does not need any scan in ordine to determine nonsense. The scan shows Sun in Virgo along with Pisces ascendant. Everybody can perform this experiment, using any astronomic tool. They have been cheating on you all of the time, passing unqualified data under your nose while swindling your karma and daily life with two signs of error. You have been dating the wrong sign. They will tell you that in the west you are this and in the east you are that, but you can easily prove to anyone of them that they are liars who never knew how to determine the position of the natal Sun for themselves.


    CAVEAT EMPTOR


    Consider making a horoscope for yourself, using any astronomic program or inbuilt planetarium, rather than ruining family life and your child's career with dangerous superstition. Always consult NASA Sun ephemeris. We posted these ephemeris and also published several animated displays of the real skies on lulu.com/astrology Mail us at klaudio_zic@yahoo.com and you will receive data directly from the NASA server.


    SCORPIUS


    Here is a strip of the NASA Sun ephemeris. Sai Baba has been born on November 23rd with Sun in Libra. “Oph” stands for Ophiuchus.


    2008-Nov-23 00:00 Lib
    2008-Nov-24 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-25 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-26 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-27 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-28 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-29 00:00 Sco
    2008-Nov-30 00:00 Oph


    The Sun spends only a week in Scorpius. Now we were born on Nov 28th. Guess our zodiacal sign?


    MEDICAL ASTROLOGY


    Whoever wants to have the wrong organ cut may continue to believe in the astrology as presented by popular newspapers. It is greatly assumed that people go to the astrologer for fun, but what if they pay serious attention to advice? They will have the wrong organ cut out on the wrong day and hour in the wrong month or year, where there was no need to cut anything at all, as Neptune was not in that house.
    HOUSE OF MARRIAGE


    Neptune was not in the other house either. Starting with not knowing where the Sun is, is an excellent introduction in general chaos where madman takes advice and counsel from madman. The poor fellow is tossed forth through Chinese, Mayan, Indian signs and across an array of specialised tarots in order to reach the end of the month penniless and confused. The chief of the London Astrology Lodge emerged from the gypsy's tent confused. Even an excellent astrologer like him could not know it all. At the time there was no zodiac, ascendants were rambling around and planets were tossed at random from house to house. Not one house system was working. Imagine how many cases of divorce issued on account of Neptune in 7th that was in fact in 6th. Latitude was unknown and major errors made in further prediction. Some tarot initiation would help the gypsy, providing that she can set 40 years apart for the first card. Fortunately, the gypsy wrote no books, to our best knowledge, blessed may improvise futurity in Heaven.


    DATING


    Now when two people meet, errors multiply. When a Scorpio/Capricorn meets a Virgo/Aries, the issue is gloomy, as hopefully not depending on astrology. They will marry anyway. If children are healthy, crops abundant and prosperity widely spread before the couple, initial astrological errors can be discarded with meticulous “even the wrong system works for us” nonchalance.


    WHO ARE WE?


    We determiend the zodiac and ascendant set. The Academic Zodiac is the great zodiac of our time, the first scientific zodiac that we ever had. Apart from the 22 zodiacal stations, a second set of precessed ascendants guards the angel guardian at east from superstition and false astrology. Your true personality is based on your true natal sky. The implications of zodiacal reformation as we approach year 2012 are vast as concern its application in masonic ritual, national heraldry and holy architecture. To begin with, UNICEF will help every child to true natal skies for everyone. After more than 5000 years, we have finally taken off the chains that bounded us to false identities as spelled by false ascendants, sun signs and impossible planetary positions. Zodiacal reformation is art of the planetary exorcism as speeding evolution towards Mayan 2011 or 2012.


    FORBIDDEN SCIENCE


    The LORD forbade Chaldean calculus for several obvious reasons. This ancient superstition was inaccurate. The Chaldean ascendant was fixed to an unmoving sky, lacking precession. Some of the ancients believed in unmoving skies with 12 fixed ascendants. If that would be so, we would never have precession. False ego is from the devil, as prone to every kind of superstition, like the 12 ascendants, a popular nonsense in which many believe to this day. The victims of misinterpretation can blame authors like Ptolemy but no blame can be attached to immaculate Hipparchus. Hipparchus strongly rebuked the “astrologers” of his time, who stole into the marketplace armed with a sheet of outdated knowledge. In order to cheat on their customers, “astrologers” invented a nonsensical string of apparently learned expressions, by which they were hiding a simple truth: they were never able to determine the position of their own natal Sun.


    DETERMINING THE ZODIAC


    In order to discreate false ego, we inspected the zodiac and ascendant set for different epochs. The scan was done in twenty minutes with primitive tools. In these twenty minutes, the zodiac was determined. The set of ascendants took less than five minutes to determine. Moses was an Egyptian initiate who knew how to count the constellations. He no doubt inspected the Orion cycle as main nether ascendant in ancient Egypt. The zodiac has 22 constellations, while the eastern ascendants for the current epoch are only 16 in number. The Hebrew alphabet is thus compatible with the zodiac, much as popular Tarot games fall in the category of 22. A separate set, a sort of Minor Arcana, was devised to serve as ascendant set. This set has a total of 88 cards, but in various epochs it served as partial set of e.g. 16 or 36 cards. The court cards of the Tarot may thus represent the set of ascendants for the current epoch. Thoth gave us only three Tarot initiations, and for good reasons, while the 4th and 5th are still being written. Previous epochs, when the Art flourished, had towards two dozen ascending constellations at due east. It is in one of these epochs that we established our intent, interest and basis for Egyptian initiation.


    NO MORE HEROES ANY MORE


    Newspapers dedicated to superstition will quote each other on the so-called vernal point in Aries, where the Sun is imagined as rising in Aries at spring equinox. At this epoch, Aries does not rise at east, at all. Having “Aries ascending” in one's horoscope is pure fancy. Aries did ascend, through, at the time of King Arthur, when men were brave and castles rammed, in order to free the lovely lady and true mind from the dragon and local tyrant, false ego. Knights born with Crater ascending would join the Holy Grail pursuit.


    THE AGE CETUS


    The Sun not only does not rise at east in Aries for spring equinox, but it can be argued whether it rises in Pisces at all. There is a thin line between Cetus and Pisces as determined by the IAU standards, with little stars and proofs as to the real constellation the Sun is in. Cetus has three zodiacal sections through which e.g. The Moon is driven on its serpentine way towards Aries, where Pluto sinks into Cetus and towards Eridanus or where Earth co-orbitals and Eris meet. Pluto can have a conjunction with Eris in Cetus. One of the main occasions in which astronomers surely had a hearty laughter was when someone proclaimed a kind of “rulership of Pluto in Aries”. Greenwich must have roared with laughter when some “astrological lodge” in the neighborhood proclaimed “Pluto rising in Aries”. The poor astrologers or whatever they were never knew that Pluto never enters Aries. The asinine astrologers of our time will surely have Eris in Taurus, another impossible position. One must pardon people for not knowing how to calculate the position of their natal sun or lacking money for a ticket to Greenwich. After all, we are all only human, prone to make mistakes. Pluto sinks into Cetus from Aquarius, heading towards Eridanus. Pluto never entered Pisces or Aries and never will. Already this reliable astronomic fact is enough to debunk “astrology” as dangerous superstition for the masses. A clever child will come to the same conclusion, and disallow any influence from authoritative superstition. And if it is hell to go through, let him head the words of Sir Winston Leonard Spenser Churchill: “If it is hell you are going through, keep going.”


    PLANETARY EXORCISM


    In order to ram one's mind into focus, one either stops thinking, like fishermen often do, or concentrates, like Bobby Fisher often did. Whatever “method” is valid as psyche falls off in order for true mind to emerge victorious. All superstition is based on psyche roaming the psyche. The psyche can not analyse itself, as it was exclusively forced unto one in order to enslave one. Only the hero can free Andromeda from chains and Cetus below, false ego. The superhero in Aries checks Cetus as Lamb of God. All fairy tales and myths are centered upon the simple fact that Adam is enslaved and liberation hard to achieve against a strong, unknown and slippery enemy, the devil. Freud called it psyche.


    CATALOG OF ERRORS


    It would take folio volumes to produce an entertaining reading for astrology lovers, in which all the facets of this superstition are ridiculed as faced with scientific facts. We love astrology and pardon its mistales, but to some extent we feel asinine in following just every bit of nonsense that brave men added to this fascinating field of human knowledge over the eons. How can one prove a rainy day to a believer who soaks wet but believes that it is sunny? False ego is not even dealt with, it is discarded. We never analysed all the facets of superstitious astrology, as we clearly determined the zodiac, in order to have a reliable scientific field in which to work with accuracy.


    As nobody cares for accuracy in superstition, the muddy waters are being muddled even more, thus soon we shall have Spica Virginis entering “Scorpio”, while this star has spent ages in Libra, as afforded to her by the fancy of asinine astrologers, who slam planets here and there according to their bizarre fancy.
    Spica Virginis gives the magic flavor to one of the longest zodiacal stations, Virgo. Where else would Spica Virginis be as main star of Virgo constellation? It is obviously in Virgo. Astronomers do not shift this star anywhere else. Why should they? They are dealing with the real sky and are surely not bent to cheat on us. Precisely because of their honesty, they are shunned by “astrologers”.
    The zodiacal error as presented to the masses is not only two signs or two constellations. Two signs of error are just the beginning of a long series of errors that we can not possibly enumerate in our lifetime and beyond. From a couple of basic errors, all other errors stem in succession. The most serious error was that we never had a zodiac. Nobody cared to scan the zodiac. Astronomers apparently never needed one, as they remain disinterested in zodiacal or ascendental classifications, quite obsolete in modern astronomy. Astrology was a funny pastime as based on coffe table belief in 12 rising signs that serve as zodiacal constellations or signs. Since astrology never entered the field of science, any superstition served fairly well for entertainment purpose. If there was a time when astrology was taken seriously, we must look towards the first examples of Egyptian synastry. That has been done and reestablished in a refreshed initiate system, as included in the RTRRT or Real Time Reality Rendering Tools, a historical name for a set of instant magick techniques. Exorcism can start with consulting the NASA ephemeris for the Sun. One will find that e.g. the Sun is in Libra on November 23rd, Sai Baba's birthday.
    The ascendant is determined by the eastern star, or guardian angel. At the present epoch no one can have “Capricorn”, “Scorpio” or Aries ascendant.
    If “Capricorn” is determined by one of the many quack programs in use, then it is probably Pisces rising at east. Whoever feared one's own “Capricorn” ascendant may relax, as Capricornus, the proper spelling, does not rise at east at this epoch.
    If they have told you that you are “Scorpio”, relax, because you may be Virgo.
    Orbs were invented to make up for the enormous amount of error. Orbs have no place in astrology. The event happens to the second it was predicted. The orb of influence of a planet is pure fancy.
    Aspects between projections are replaced with angular aspects in the real sky.
    An unsurmountable deal of asinine literature proposes the most unbelievable aspects that include 11 or 111 degrees. In a horoscope where everything is misplaced by miles, the refined charlatans inspected stuff like an 18 degree aspect. With quarter of sky of error for planetary position, they played the minute scientist. This is typical of the psyche, which distracts from the quintessential while driving people mad with petty nonsense. You will find examples of people driving mad other people with nonsense in your suburb, neighborhood and TV.
    There is no such thing as Mars opposing Pluto. True, sometimes aspects come close to 180 degrees, but occasions are rare. If we come to 177 degrees of angular aspect, take five while remembering that 3 degrees is 3 years of error in direction.
    The natal horoscope does not determine the events. The directions determine the event. Thus for Carl Gustav Jung, the secondary angular direction of Moon in Cetus determined his childhood.
    Alice has been born on Aug 4th 2004 with Moon rising in Cetus, Mercury in Sextans and Venus in Orion at the Stargate. She has Juno in Scutum and Pluto in Serpens Cauda, the ascendant of the U.S.A. This diligent little girl is vital for the future of her nation, but her parents did not know it before the astral scan has been made for the child.


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    • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

      Sat, December 20, 2008 - 6:46 PM
      Well let's see umm maybe speak your mind more in the bed room have little more variety would be greatly appreciated lol
      my ex scorpio girl wouldn't even say the word blow job in bed lol,or she didn't confused me on what she wanted for me but the sex was good tho lol,she last 2 hours I last 2 hours plus 30 I easy made her cum twice lol,haha now who the pimp lol,btw
      I got it for free too lol so haha thats some real pimp shit lol,but yeah definitely talking in bed helps lol
      so there no confusion and plenty of sweaty! Hot! Sex!
      • Re: Scorpio and Virgo

        Sat, December 20, 2008 - 6:50 PM
        I'm a virgo btw if you miss it lol,but yeah maybe less chao's would would be nice to,and hold back on stinging outside of bed lol,
        in bed for me i don't care I like it lol,it make's me feel teased and feeling naughty

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